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Applicants without a Med-Peds Program - Shared screen with speaker view
JT Tolentino - U Miami PD (he/his/him)
22:17
Welcome everyone! Please feel free to ask questions along the way in the chat!
Beatrice J
25:11
Beatrice Jourdain, Beatrice.jourdain@lmunet.edu, 2022
Reesha White
25:22
Reesha B. White, 2022, reesha.white@burrell.edu
Taylor Orcutt
25:23
Taylor Orcutt, taylororcutt@my.unthsc.edu, 2022
Joseph Cornett
25:26
Joseph Cornett, 2022, jac2430@cumc.columbia.edu
Brittany Hopkins
25:26
Brittany Hopkins, bhopkins19@email.mmc.edu, c/o 2022
Matthew Au
25:27
Matthew Au, 2022, matthew.au@my.rfums.org
Jaimie Rogner | MSIV | SUNY Upstate Medical University
25:28
Jaimie Rogner, rognerj@upstate.edu, 2022
Santoshi Mounika Kandalam
25:29
Mounika Kandalam, mounikakandalam@gmail.com, 2022
Liana Mosley
25:30
Liana Mosley, 2022, limosley@augusta.edu
Tanner Corse, MS4 HMSOM
25:32
Tanner Corse, 2022, tanner.corse@hmhn.org
Rebecca McDonald
25:33
Rebecca McDonald, rebeccamcdonald@my.unthsc.edu
Merelyn Thomas, MS4
25:34
Merelyn Thomas, 2022, merelynthomas@gmail.com
Shane Clark
25:34
Shane Clark, 2022, shane3468@ufl.edu
Rebecca Goldstein
25:35
Rebecca Goldstein, rgoldstein365@gmail.com, 2022
Sundar Devakottai, MS4
25:37
Sundar Devakottai, 2022, devakott@student.uiwtx.edu
Vincent Cendán, MS4 - UCF COM
25:39
Vincent Cendán, 2022, Vincent.cendan@knights.ucf.edu
Andy Nguyen
25:42
Andy Nguyen, 2022, abnguyen2@wisc.edu
Andrew Powell OMS IV
25:42
Andrew Powell, apowell864@marian.edu , 2022
Tony McKeiver
25:44
Anthony McKeiver tonymckeiver@kansascity.edu, 2022
Alyssa Purdy
25:50
Alyssa Purdy, 2022, purdyal@upstate.edu
Erica Onwuegbuchu
25:51
Erica Onwuegbuchu, 2022, eronwueg@utmb.edu
Francisco Lasso-Claudio, PHSU MS4
25:52
Francisco J. Lasso-Claudio, 2022, flasso18@stu.psm.edu
Keith Savran
25:56
Keith Savran, 2022Keith.savran@tufts.edu
Sobiah Khan
25:56
Sobiah Khan, 2022, khanso89@rowan.edu
Jester Galiza, MS4
25:59
Jester Galiza, 2022, jpgaliza@hawaii.edu
Elizabeth Williams
26:03
epeterson46890@med.lecom.edu Elizabeth Williams LECOM 2022
Clarence Williams
26:05
Clarence, Williams Jr, 2022, cjmwilliams1990@gmail.com
Linnea Vance
26:06
Linnea Vance, linneavance@mail.rossmed.efu
Meredith Kline MS4
26:13
Meredith Kline, meredith.kline@emory.edu, 2022
Nicholas
26:19
Nicholas Wilson, 2025, nicwilson@msm.edu
Rakiyah Jones
26:21
Rakiyah Jones, 2025, rjones6@sgu.edu
Robertha Barnes
26:27
Robertha Barnes, 2024 barnesro@upstate.edu
steven canales
26:28
Steven Canales, 2022, steven.canales@burrell.edu
Annika Lee
26:31
Annika Lee, 2022, annika.clare.lee@emory.edu
Mai Lam
26:36
Mai Lam, mlam@vt.vcom.edu, 2022
Danielle Cannon
26:41
Danielle Cannon, 2023, cannonda@upstate.edu
Juan D. Ventura
26:46
Juan Ventura, 2024, jdventur@utmb.edu
Courtney Lewis
26:53
Courtney Lewis, 2023, courtney.rae.lewis@emory.edu
Linnea Vance
27:47
Linnea Vance, 2022, linneavance@mail.rossmed.edu
Chris Williams
28:22
Chris Williams, 2022 Christopher.james.williams@live.mercer.edu
Ronald Magliola - MetroHealth PD (he/him)
30:07
We look forward to generating excitement about med-peds and answering your questions tonight. Send them our way!
JT Tolentino - U Miami PD (he/his/him)
31:47
Woot!
Jester Galiza, MS4
38:00
Will Med-Peds be participating in the Supplemental Application/Preference Signaling that IM, gen surg, and Derm are participating in this year?
Allison Ashford/ PD U of Nebraska
38:24
@Jester, nope!
Tom Davis (Geisinger PD)
38:26
MP is not include in that to date, only those programs are this year. Great question
Jester Galiza, MS4
39:22
Thank you for the response!
Sarah Householder
40:34
Some programs state that they do not require any department letters - does that mean it'd be better to have all letters be from people who worked with you clinically? Or would it be better to have just one department letter?
Tom Davis (Geisinger PD)
40:54
@Sarah that means supply us the best letters you can get
JT Tolentino - U Miami PD (he/his/him)
40:58
@Sarah it depends on the program - each program has slightly different requirements for LORs.
JT Tolentino - U Miami PD (he/his/him)
41:14
I agree with @Tom Davis
Mary Catherine Turner, ECU Med-Peds PD, (she/her)
41:15
I would always go with letters from people who know you well/have worked with you clinically in that case.
Sarah Householder
41:28
ok thank you! That's really helpful
Allison Ashford/ PD U of Nebraska
41:30
Same as above.
Mary Catherine Turner, ECU Med-Peds PD, (she/her)
41:30
agree with above
Sharon Wretzel - Baystate Medical Center
41:44
Agree!
Ronald Magliola - MetroHealth PD (he/him)
42:14
@Sarah I'll give my take. We prefer letters from clinicians who know you the best. It's OK if those letters are not from internal medicine and pediatric faculty.
Tom Davis (Geisinger PD)
44:21
If couples matching we often will ask if your significant other has received an interview and reach out to the other program on your behalf to try to get interviews at the same location. Do not be afraid to ask
Ronald Magliola - MetroHealth PD (he/him)
44:22
Medical student affairs office can help with mock virtual interviews. Take advantage of those!
Nicholas
44:31
This may be a silly question, but are letters of recommendations from non-clinicians (specifically from the PI of my lab) acceptable?
JT Tolentino - U Miami PD (he/his/him)
44:53
And many departments will also do mock interviews - if your peds or medicine departments do it, sign up (either for one or both!)
Allison Ashford/ PD U of Nebraska
45:00
@Nicholas, if the person played a major part in your training/extracurriculars (like a PI from a lab), I welcome it personally.
Tom Davis (Geisinger PD)
45:09
@Nicholas I have seen letters from non clinicians, I would ensure that you have at least 2 clinical letters as well. We want to understand the total package, academic research and clinical
JT Tolentino - U Miami PD (he/his/him)
45:10
@Allison - agreed!
Lisann Verrico (Albany)
45:10
@Nicholas - yes, acceptable but please make sure you have letters that speak to your clinical skills as well
Sharon Wretzel - Baystate Medical Center
45:43
Agree with Lisann, I want to know from people that know YOU and also people that know your clinical skills too
Ronald Magliola - MetroHealth PD (he/him)
45:49
@Nicholas. My take is to have mostly clinical letters. One or two from a PI who knows you very well would work for me.
Annika Lee
47:09
It has been mentioned that making personal statements specific to each program may be helpful- would you recommend that?
Allison Ashford/ PD U of Nebraska
49:16
And if you’re gonna put one little line in— make sure the font is the same :)
Tom Davis (Geisinger PD)
49:25
YES!
Tom Davis (Geisinger PD)
49:37
Same goes with emails to programs
Ronald Magliola - MetroHealth PD (he/him)
50:11
Good point on the fonts. Honesty is really the best policy. We really what you to excel in residency and matching at the best program for your will serve everyone well!
Elizabeth Williams
50:12
I have a question about slide with the number of DO applicants (31 maybe?) it said 62 DO students applied, 16 it was their only choice, and 24 1st choice. Does that mean only 62 DO students applied that year?
Reesha White
51:01
Is dual-applying to IM or Peds at places with a med/peds program generally frowned upon?
Allison Ashford/ PD U of Nebraska
52:03
@Reesha: depends on your situation. I generally don’t recommend it unless 1) you have a red flag on your application or 2) you NEED to end up in a certain location. As the slides said, if you apply to 10ish med/peds places, you should do fine!
Sharon Wretzel - Baystate Medical Center
52:46
@Reesha - if you are planning on doing this because you need to be in a specific place, I would recommend being up front about it with the PDs of the programs you are applying to
Ronald Magliola - MetroHealth PD (he/him)
52:51
Agree with Allison. Again best to let all programs at the same institution know.
Lisann Verrico (Albany)
52:59
Agree!
Tom Davis (Geisinger PD)
53:00
I agree with Allison and Sharon
Mary Catherine Turner, ECU Med-Peds PD, (she/her)
53:05
Agree. Reference Dr. Verrico's example provided. otherwise we might wonder how much you really want to do Med-Peds
Rebecca McDonald
53:08
Makes sense!!
Reesha White
53:20
makes sense, thank you!
Colleen Monaghan (APD BWH/BCH, she/hers)
54:00
Dual applying when you are couples matching or have to be in a certain city is completely understandable. Folks sometimes apply to categorical programs also for other reasons and since we often are aware of this and that is fine. I would just say just be sure to have a good/solid reason why med-peds is a good choice for you because nobody wants an intern/resident to regret their choice after matching.
Matthew Au
54:02
Would letting programs know we are dual applying be worked into our personal statement or is it something we bring up on interview day?
Clarence Williams
54:27
How would you advise students who do not have their step 2 score prior to applying on selecting programs?
Tom Davis (Geisinger PD)
54:29
you can do it either way. It may be much better in person to discuss
Allison Ashford/ PD U of Nebraska
54:59
@Clarence: hopefully you’ll have taken it by the time our rank lists are due. I often go back and ‘fill in the blanks’ for people that have pending tests.
Allison Ashford/ PD U of Nebraska
55:12
Try to at least have it scheduled so you can tell people you’re going to take it soon.
Tom Davis (Geisinger PD)
55:21
Regarding Step 2, many programs are using it as pass fail at this time. Just make sure it is passed by the time rank lists are in
JT Tolentino - U Miami PD (he/his/him)
55:38
Agree with Allison and Tom -
Liana Mosley
55:51
What are your thoughts on including significant undergraduate experiences on the ERAS application?
JT Tolentino - U Miami PD (he/his/him)
56:17
Plan to schedule your Step 2 so that the test results are available at the time of match.
Tom Davis (Geisinger PD)
56:27
If they are significant and something that you are proud of and want to discuss they are good to include, especially if it was a leadership position or something that was meaningful
Mary Catherine Turner, ECU Med-Peds PD, (she/her)
56:28
include the highlights - things that were really meaningful to you. but would not put every activity from college in ERAS
Allison Ashford/ PD U of Nebraska
56:29
@Liana, if it’s significant, ok with me. But don’t just put things there to fill space. I think if you are able to talk about it and it’s significance in your life, include it.
Sharon Wretzel - Baystate Medical Center
56:51
Agree with Mary Catherine and Allison
Andrew Powell OMS IV
57:00
How much of an emphasis is there on board scores? Is level 1 more important than level 2? What if our scores are a little lower, is it still ok to solely apply med-peds vs dual applying?
Liana Mosley
57:02
Thank you!
Beatrice Jourdain, OMS IV
57:05
Does improving on level 2 score be taken into consideration compared to a low level 1 score?
Lisann Verrico (Albany)
57:09
Yes! Agree with Allen as well!!!
Allison Ashford/ PD U of Nebraska
57:30
@Beatrice: yes!! We know that a test is only one day in your life.
JT Tolentino - U Miami PD (he/his/him)
58:00
As Step 1 moves more Pass/Fail, some programs are only considering step 1 as pass fail, even if scores are available.
Tom Davis (Geisinger PD)
58:20
Almost all programs are using a holistic approach to step scores (USMLE and COMLEX) is pass/fail and it is much more important for the total package. If you are concerned about your step 1 score I would say use step 2 and increase to show that you improved your study process and be willing to discuss it if brought up in an interview
JT Tolentino - U Miami PD (he/his/him)
58:41
Agree with the holistic review @Tom
Sharon Wretzel - Baystate Medical Center
58:42
There are many programs - ours included- that use test scores as only one part of the entire decision as to whether to invite or not. Tests are only one part of who you are!
Beatrice Jourdain, OMS IV
59:05
Thank you everyone for the encouraging responses
Allison Ashford/ PD U of Nebraska
01:00:03
Agree with Dr. Davis. Be organized!
Shane Clark
01:00:51
Do any of the panelists know how COVID-19 affected the overall competitiveness of Med-Peds? Considering applicants could accept more interviews, did this in affect take away interview spots from other candidates and force people to apply and interview at more places?
Allison Ashford/ PD U of Nebraska
01:02:45
One of the coolest things is that you WILL see the SAME people interviewing — we are a small family. We actually like each other! We want to know you!
Lisann Verrico (Albany)
01:03:07
Agree with Allison :)
Sharon Wretzel - Baystate Medical Center
01:03:12
YES! It is great to meet your colleagues on the interview trail, it’s great!
Allison Ashford/ PD U of Nebraska
01:03:55
@Shane. COVID did weird things. It’s so hard to tell— we were all busier. But it’s such a hard question to answer.
Chelsey Johnson - NMPRA
01:04:40
Everyone is wonderful and it is a great experience to meet all the different PDs while interviewing. You will have a blast and we are all so excited for you all.
Rebecca McDonald
01:05:44
As an osteopathic student, we love to hear it!!! Thank you for this reassurance :)
Mary Catherine Turner, ECU Med-Peds PD, (she/her)
01:07:24
And we love our DO residents! Leaders in our program and bringing in additional skill sets of OMM, etc.
Linnea Vance
01:07:42
I have a few questions for a program director privately. Is it okay that we email you?
JT Tolentino - U Miami PD (he/his/him)
01:07:51
Yes please do!
Sharon Wretzel - Baystate Medical Center
01:07:54
Of course!
Tom Davis (Geisinger PD)
01:07:55
yes of course
Allison Ashford/ PD U of Nebraska
01:07:57
Absolutely Linnea. I’m allison.ashford@unmc.edu
Mary Catherine Turner, ECU Med-Peds PD, (she/her)
01:07:58
yes!
JT Tolentino - U Miami PD (he/his/him)
01:07:58
We are more than happy to answer your questions
Colleen Monaghan (APD BWH/BCH, she/hers)
01:08:00
Absolutely
JT Tolentino - U Miami PD (he/his/him)
01:08:05
jxt1084@med.miami.edu
Sharon Wretzel - Baystate Medical Center
01:08:15
sharon.wretzel@baystatehealth.org
Tom Davis (Geisinger PD)
01:08:16
twdavis@geisinger.edu
Mary Catherine Turner, ECU Med-Peds PD, (she/her)
01:08:16
brakem@ecu.edu
Linnea Vance
01:08:21
Thank you!
Ronald Magliola - MetroHealth PD (he/him)
01:08:25
Of course. Many great PD's here and throughout the nation to help you!
Lisann Verrico (Albany)
01:08:27
verrici@amc.edu
Colleen Monaghan (APD BWH/BCH, she/hers)
01:08:35
cmonaghan@bwh.harvard.edu
Ronald Magliola - MetroHealth PD (he/him)
01:08:40
rmagliola@metrohealth.org
Allison Ashford/ PD U of Nebraska
01:08:42
Agree with Dr. Johnson— please listen to those of us that understand the med/peds match!
PD Christiana/Nemours-Allen Friedland
01:09:18
afriedland@christianacare.org
Tom Davis (Geisinger PD)
01:09:43
Also please spread the positive word about MP and dispel the myths for us at your schools and help other students find that MP is the right career choice for them!
Ronald Magliola - MetroHealth PD (he/him)
01:09:56
Please point your phone at the screen!
Laurine Tiema-Benson
01:09:58
allegra.bohlen@rosalindfranklin.edu
Jaimie Rogner | MSIV | SUNY Upstate Medical University
01:10:05
Thank you so much, Dr. Davis! I am certainly sold and have been doing so already!
Laurine Tiema-Benson
01:10:31
lucy.hammerberg@rosalindfranklin.edu
JT Tolentino - U Miami PD (he/his/him)
01:10:32
Yes! Tell everyone that med-peds is the absolute best ever
Allison Ashford/ PD U of Nebraska
01:10:36
THE BEST !
JT Tolentino - U Miami PD (he/his/him)
01:10:37
#MP4L
Colleen Monaghan (APD BWH/BCH, she/hers)
01:10:50
There has to be more questions out there. Feel free to post them here.
Sharon Wretzel - Baystate Medical Center
01:11:00
You are joining the best specialty out there!
Mary Catherine Turner, ECU Med-Peds PD, (she/her)
01:11:01
Thank you for joining us! we look forward to meeting you on the virtual interview trail!
Chelsey Johnson - NMPRA
01:11:17
allegra.bohlen@rosalindfranklin.edu
Laura Tarantino
01:11:18
Thank you!
Beatrice Jourdain, OMS IV
01:11:21
Thank you so much for taking the time. Appreciate these sessions
Tom Carroll
01:11:22
Thank you all so much!
Santoshi Mounika Kandalam
01:11:30
,
Rachel Pham
01:11:30
Thank you!!!!
steven canales
01:11:32
Thank you everyone!
Liana Mosley
01:11:33
Thank y’all for everything!!
Alyssa Purdy
01:11:33
Thank you!
Mit Shah - MS4 Saint Louis University SOM
01:11:34
Thank you all very much! :)
Linnea Vance
01:11:35
Thank you for taking the time to spend with us.
Erica Onwuegbuchu
01:11:37
Thank you so much! This was a great session. Excited to join the best specialty out there! #MP4L
Jester Galiza, MS4
01:11:37
Thank you all!
Danielle Cannon
01:11:38
Thank you!!
Santoshi Mounika Kandalam
01:11:38
Thank you!
Melvin Paulose
01:11:42
thank you for the meeting
Brittany Hopkins MS4- Meharry Medical College
01:11:43
Thank you!
Allison Ashford/ PD U of Nebraska
01:11:44
Glad to see my Creighton three! Laura, Rachel and Tom!
Rebecca Goldstein
01:11:44
Thank you!
Farha Pirani
01:11:44
Thank you so much! This was so helpful!
Andrew Powell OMS IV
01:11:45
Thank you for all the encouragement and support!
Francisco Lasso-Claudio, PHSU MS4
01:11:45
thank you!!
Hadiqa Memon (MS4)
01:11:51
Thank you so much!!!
Laurine Tiema-Benson
01:11:53
Thank you!!!
Clarence Williams
01:12:00
Thank you this was very helpful
Jaimie Rogner | MSIV | SUNY Upstate Medical University
01:12:01
All of these sessions have been so affirming. Karaoke it is!