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Introduction to Med-Peds - Shared screen with speaker view
Allison Ashford- PD at U of Nebraska Med Center
22:15
For those that have just joined, let us know who you are and what your email address is! We are excited to see all of you!
Taylor Konstan
22:54
Taylor Konstan OMS4 - tkonstan78@midwestern.edu
Rachelle Ann Gonzales - M3 EVMS
23:55
Rachelle Ann Gonzales EVMS M3 - gonzalrl@evms.edu
Allison Ashford- PD at U of Nebraska Med Center
36:13
Feel free to ask questions if you have any!
Samuel Roberts
36:59
With travel for audition rotations extremely restricted, how can students from the west coast (or Arizona) demonstrate our interest/willingness in moving to Midwest/East coast for Med-Peds?
Nate Derhammer - Loyola
37:24
That
Nate Derhammer - Loyola
37:38
is a great interest to express in a personal statement!
Ronald Magliola Metro PD
39:09
If you have a special connection... friends/relatives/etc. in a specific city, mention that during the interview. But also focus on your prior experience in moving to new areas of the country.
Nina Madjer MS3
39:20
Will it reflect badly on an applicant if they cannot obtain a sub-I in both peds and IM by the time applications need to be submitted?
Max Cruz
39:21
I think one question I hear a lot, is if MS3s are thinking about med peds, are there specific things they should be doing or focusing on during this first clinical year? esp at programs without med peds?
Lisann Verrico, Albany
39:50
You don’t need to do a Sub I in both !!!
Mary Catherine Turner, PD Brody SOM at ECU/Vidant Medical Center
40:08
@Nina - No, but with the idea that you would be completing electives in both over the coming year
Nina Madjer MS3
40:15
Ok, Thank you!
Michelle Prong
40:40
Are programs being flexible with the requirement for a chair letter(s) as part of the ERAS application this year?
Nate Derhammer - Loyola
40:55
Completely flexible
Ronald Magliola Metro PD
41:12
Programs are being very flexible this year in almost all aspects of the application.
Mary Catherine Turner, PD Brody SOM at ECU/Vidant Medical Center
41:16
Yes! Programs are putting their specific requirements on their website
Max Cruz
41:41
I only did a med sub I :) tbh when I flipped to peds during my intern year itd been nearly 2y since I did peds in med school lol... did just fine :D
Max Cruz
41:54
we also have programs submitting info on their processes/requirements this year that we are housing on nmpra: https://medpeds.org/medical-students/2020-2021-residency-application-guide/
Max Cruz
42:15
we'll update in real time as more programs send in their info
Michelle Prong
42:34
Thanks so much!
Allison Ashford- PD at U of Nebraska Med Center
43:04
I usually say do one sub-i (wards rotation) and do the opposite critical care if you can! But there is A LOT of flexibility this year.
Sasha Kapil
43:39
More programs to be added soon!
Jennifer Tich- MS4 EVMS
43:46
Thank you all so much for that! So convenient to have all that information in one central place.
Nkem
44:16
Is it preferred for students to have taken CK and have their score back before Oct 21st?
Allison Ashford- PD at U of Nebraska Med Center
44:28
My PC was taking care of it. I’ll have to ask
Nate Derhammer - Loyola
44:32
It's implied
Max Cruz
44:34
if there are other things you are finding difficult/frustrating to navigate this interview/app season, let us know!!! we can always see if we can put things in place/reach out to folks to help out.
Ronald Magliola Metro PD
45:41
Nate just won the Jeopardy buzzard competition!
Mary Catherine Turner, PD Brody SOM at ECU/Vidant Medical Center
46:10
@Nkem - there is flexibility on that. but will need the score to submit rank list in February
Ronald Magliola Metro PD
46:49
Hooray to NMPRA for hosting the applicant requirements for programs!!!
Nkem
47:01
Thank you!
Samuel Roberts
48:34
Again, with the barriers of in-person Sub-I and interview opportunities, what is the disposition towards letters from physicians we’ve worked with in non-clinical contexts (advocacy, community involvement) as to our personal characteristics? That is, in addition to those required letters that can attest our clinical capabilities.
Rachelle Ann Gonzales - M3 EVMS
50:25
What experiences/activities/etc do you recommend for MS3's to have during their clinical years to help determine whether Med-Peds is for them?
Allison Ashford- PD at U of Nebraska Med Center
51:56
Show interest and perform well in IM and peds your M3 year!
Samuel Roberts
52:19
Another question that comes from both myself and one that is being discussed extensively in the DO student community. The DO equivalent of the Step 2 CS (Level 2 PE) has not been deferred as a requirement for eventual full licensure despite being cancelled/delayed until November. Can program directors advise on whether this will adversely affect ranking of DO students who have not been able to take the exam prior to ranking? Many of my colleagues have not been able to register for a date until April ’21 and beyond due to cancellations.
Suzanne McLaughlin Brown PD
52:54
After your clerkships, it makes sense to make choices based things that are interesting to you, that are chances to work with exceptional clinicians (in any field) and also consider opting for a few rotations that almost scare you -- if you're very intimidated by an ICU, try at least one there so you can realize you ARE up to those challenges, and so you'll feel less intimidated when you are there as an intern.
Rachelle Ann Gonzales - M3 EVMS
54:22
Thank you!
Suzanne McLaughlin Brown PD
54:43
For Samuel and others asking about the standardized testing - it is possible some of those requirements will have to flex in the coming year. Notably, a significant number of this year's graduates got "bumped" out of their board certification exams for Internal Medicine this month...and delayed until December. So I think some accommodations are likely forthcoming.
Ronald Magliola Metro PD
55:02
Anticipate that all of us will be flexible and completely understand delays outside of your control.
Lisann Verrico, Albany
55:27
Agree with Sue McLaughlin and Ron Magliola !!!
Benjamin Doolittle Yale PD
56:18
Agree about flexibility on step 2…. do the best you can… My own thoughts are that we understand the challenges folks have…. and my sense is that the PD gang would agree.
Allison Ashford- PD at U of Nebraska Med Center
57:05
We are all in the same COVID boat right now— I think all programs/PDs understand the challenges you all are going through— we are having challenges too!
Samuel Roberts
57:15
One of the concerns is that our MD colleagues in the class of 2021 are not being required to take their equivalent clinical skills exams in order to proceed to Step 3. The DO students are still being required to take their clinical skills exam before the Level 3, meaning that DO interns may need time to go take it during their intern year.
Mary Catherine Turner, PD Brody SOM at ECU/Vidant Medical Center
58:18
@ Samuel - then we will accommodate your taking the CS exam during intern year.
Ronald Magliola Metro PD
58:42
Feel free to reach out to any of the program directors on this call to discuss any particular situation with test taking delays or any other specific concerns that you may have..
Suzanne McLaughlin Brown PD
59:07
@ Samuel. Our program (and I would assume most if not all) allow admin time during rotations to take step exams - would imagine the same would apply to the DO exams.
Samuel Roberts
59:55
Thank you! I work with med student advocacy and it’s reassuring to have direct affirmations during an uncertain cycle.
Nate Derhammer - Loyola
01:00:24
Any program will make whatever allowances and accommodations to facilitate board eligibility for their trainees
Max Cruz
01:02:41
LOL
Allison Ashford- PD at U of Nebraska Med Center
01:03:34
Get to know our residents as best as you can: webpages, social media, the interview “social activity”
Allison Ashford- PD at U of Nebraska Med Center
01:04:59
I made a point of not interviewing places that were more than 1 flight away (remember flying places??)— I didnt want to spend my precious days off traveling home.
Suzanne McLaughlin Brown PD
01:05:21
well kept secret of residency...you DO actually have time outside of work AND a paycheck, and 100% with Lisann -- you have a chance to think about where/how you want to live.
Samuel Roberts
01:06:17
To the note of social engagement with interviews. Are there plans for virtual interviews to have a component of talking with current residents of your programs? Or possibly similar panels to this one with residents from individual programs?
Suzanne McLaughlin Brown PD
01:06:27
And we are all working on ways to help you meet up with our residents - so check out the websites and look for things that strike you as "wow, that could be home for me"...if it is the hospital sites, the mission statements, the advocacy opportunities, the continuity clinics...there's alot to get excited about.
Samuel Roberts
01:06:50
Reading my mind!
Jennifer Tich- MS4 EVMS
01:07:31
I had an idea for other information that could be incorporated into the program sheets NMPRA has collected. It would be helpful to also know the different tracks that programs offer: eg. Med-Ed, global health, advocacy etc.?
Ronald Magliola Metro PD
01:07:37
We are plan for time with residents both during the workday as well as after hours.
Suzanne McLaughlin Brown PD
01:07:48
We are deinitely planning for some social time with our residents - MedPeds residents across the board are just wonderful people, and often the prime influencer in students choosing to pursue medpeds. we're very much hoping to have you interact with them, and are still working on best ways to set those up.
Nina Madjer MS3
01:08:22
^^ I second that @jennifer! Thank you for bringing that up!
Ronald Magliola Metro PD
01:08:57
Everyone now has the chance to unmute themselves!
Nate Derhammer - Loyola
01:08:59
That would be great to hear from you guys what would resonate most as an alternative to physically visiting our hospitals and hanging out with our residents
Max Cruz
01:09:04
one was is to think about what you are passionate about, what you care most about; how do you see your career in 5-10 years. global health? advocacy? health equity? social justice? POCUS? transitional care? AYA onc? some of you may have no idea, some of you may have an interest in specific areas... then find out what programs have tracks/mentors/etc in those areas you care about that can help you grow. you may be surprised what strengths different programs house.
Samuel Roberts
01:09:27
Having an asynchronous opportunity to attend a few grand rounds meetings would be a great insight into what it looks like to be a part of the program.
Max Cruz
01:09:28
*way
Allison Ashford- PD at U of Nebraska Med Center
01:09:46
Great idea @Samuel
Lisann Verrico, Albany
01:10:06
@Jennifer and @Nina => check out our websites !!!
Tyler Williamson, OMS-III UIWSOM
01:10:17
Thank you so much for the responses! Those were great perspectives and very helpful
Allison Ashford- PD at U of Nebraska Med Center
01:10:51
If you didn’t include your name/email in the chat— please leave us a note!
Ronald Magliola Metro PD
01:10:57
Thank you everyone! What a great evening! Go Med-Peds!
Suzanne McLaughlin Brown PD
01:10:57
@ Jennifer and @Nina, appreciate those suggestions - will send updates to NMPRA before the week is out
Kevin Tea
01:10:59
Have programs ever thought about multiple day interviews? seems a lot more accessible now via zoom. example, I’d interview on month of Dec then maybe again in January?
Brittany Brown, CUSOM OMS4
01:11:05
will programs have their own individual info sessions outside this forum?
Nkem
01:11:06
Thank you for taking time to host this!
Sasha Kapil
01:11:24
Lastly, Fritz Siegert has an announcement too :)
Suzanne McLaughlin Brown PD
01:11:29
Thanks for hosting!
Taylor Konstan
01:11:31
Thank you!
Samuel Roberts
01:11:31
Thank you for answering questions and being flexible in the complicated times!
Nina Madjer MS3
01:11:34
Thank you so much to all of the PDs on the call! I appreciate your time.
Jennifer Tich- MS4 EVMS
01:11:52
Thank you all for your time! I greatly appreciate it.
Fritz
01:12:31
1. Go to the link typed in below to view our working directory of med-peds advisors2. Select the tab "Med Schools w/o MP Programs"3. Find your school in Column A4. Scroll over to column H and see if your school's med-peds advisor is listed5. If you don't see your schools advisor listed, please email Thomas "Fritz" Siegert at thomas_siegert@brown.eduwith your school name, advisor name, his/her/their email address(es), and whether or not they're med-peds trained, categorical medicine, categorical peds, etc.
Fritz
01:12:42
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1b3lcnsUEIR9a0YZdCF5m2rNUo6AcDOim/edit#gid=1555354837
Mary Catherine Turner, PD Brody SOM at ECU/Vidant Medical Center
01:12:44
@ Brittany - I did a session with Campbell in May. probably not at this point b/c we are preparing for interviews, etc and have been on many of these calls. check out our website and social media accounts.
Lisann Verrico, Albany
01:13:13
Awesome !!!
Suzanne McLaughlin Brown PD
01:13:15
Thanks Fritz
Max Cruz
01:13:16
Thanks for working on this Fritz!!
Alex Woinski WVSOM OMS-III
01:13:26
Thank you, all!
Rachelle Ann Gonzales - M3 EVMS
01:13:28
Thank you for putting this together!